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Time Out : Phyllis Coey ( 2013 – 09 -13)
Kevin Gallagher
Sept 14 2013

Transcript of Phyllis Coey Interview

Time Out Productions Community Access Channel 23  presents long time political activist Phyllis Coey. She is 86 years old ( 2013) and has been politically active making people aware of the New World order since the 1940s.

Note on the transcript. It is best to listen to the radio interview and refer to the transcript for clarification.

Kevin Gallagher is professional presenter and he speaks fluent mainstream media American. The subject of his interview, Phyllis Ann Coey, is a midwestern mother, grandmother and Christian activist from Ohio. Her inflections and expressions are Ohio and I have not altered them in any way because this the heartland of America speaking. Her story is even more radical [in the sense of fundamental] and dangerous to the lies of the US Deep State in the new millennium than they were in the 1960s. I have made a transcript for reference and burned the CD of the Kevin Gallagher interview , so when the JewTube deplatforms it I will have it up on this website video channel. – Linde.

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Kevin Gallagher : “Time Out Productions presents ong time political activist Phyllis Coey, 86 years old. She has been politically active making people aware of the NWO since the 1940’s.

Folks we have a lady on the telephone tonight all the way from Ohio. And we are going to be talking a lot about her son and his activities that happened back in the 1970s in Rhodesia. It’s important that we look backward many times to be able to understand what we are going and living through now, so Mrs. Coey thank you so much for joining me here on the program tonight. “

Phyllis Coey. “This is such a pleasure. Thank you. Thank you.”

KG. “Yes. You are welcome. Tell us a little bit about your background and a little about your son. Let’s get right into that. I know you are 86 years old. You are not to shy about telling people your age. Let’s just go from there.”

Phyllis Coey. “Well I had the privilege of a few weeks or so ago of being interviewed with you which I appreciate. And giving the whole background of myself and my family.

“I have been in this battle for truth : Biblical and political truth since I was thirteen years old. And the battle continues.

“I was very blessed. My husband (George Emmett Coey) passed away nine years ago this month. And a week just before our 58th anniversary. So I was very, very blessed to have a husband and two sons. And we were united in our efforts for truth through the years. My sons have paid quite a price too. So that is the background of us concerning our efforts with the world situation.”

KG. “Now you have been battling and making people aware of what we call the NWO , for lack of a better term, for longer than most of us have been alive.”

Phyllis Coey. “Yes. That’s very true. And I can not get around to the extent I used to physically, but I don’t intend to give up. I still worked with the veterans for many years when I was living in Alabama. So I continue. I have my snail mail and my old time telephone and I continue to work with you younger ones. I want to be an inspiration and a help in any way that I can and be an encouragement. So I try to keep on.”

KG. “So how does Rhodesia click into all of this? Tell us a little bit about your late son John.”

Phyllis Coey. “Well. It started in 1965. And on the news we kept hearing about a little country called Rhodesia. And it was in sort of Southern Africa.

And it was a threat to world peace. And they were racists and bigots and all these horrible things. [Note – from her tone it is clear that she is describing the Rhodesian narrative concocted by mainstream media]

And we thought: ‘that doesn’t sound right. What’s this all about. So we began our search for truth there. And we learned Rhodesia had declared their independence from Britain 1965. And they weren’t going along with the UN. They were only the size of California. And we thought ‘how can they be such a threat to world peace?’ Well. They didn’t go along with the new world order. That was the problem. And they had world-wide sanctions put against them. They were exporting food.

They were basically, pretty much a Christian nation. They had full employment, freedom…and so we began to get the truth about the situation, never thinking at the time how involved we would become in the future.

KG. “So it was one of those situations where you found the reality on the ground was different than the political realities…And I put that ‘political realities’ in quotes. And that was being fed to the Western media.

Phyllis Coey. “That’s right! That’s right and I said that they had these world wide sanctions put against them. Well. They were land locked and so the only way they could get any oil, then imported. It was around through South Africa that they managed to get some. But then they couldn’t export anything. As I said, they had the best chrome in the world. A country that small. They were even exporting food…So I’ll move on up then to the year of 1972. And my son, John had entered college and they [the Coey brothers] also went into the Marines, the ROTC program. And he became very disillusioned with that. And decided…well we knew there wasn’t any way our sons could possibly serve with the unconstitutional , so called war in Vietnam and yet they were caught in the middle of the situation, because, they weren’t, as I mentioned on the program before, they weren’t about to run off with, you know, the group up to Canada.

They weren’t going to be out marching with Hanoi Jane [ Jane Fonda ] . They weren’t going to end up in a hippy commune somewhere. And we were in the big city and living in the midst of all this turmoil…So my son [John] was ready to graduate in 1972. And he said “Where can I serve honorably?” You know “where can I really do the right kind of service?” And we had searched out Rhodesia. He decided to go there. And he left the day after he graduated from Ohio state university. He left for Rhodesia. And he had written his ‘Soldier’s Protest’ which told everything in detail as to why he was making his decision. And he mailed it everywhere to –

the state government, the Federal government, church family…everybody. Exactly why and where and what all was going on and why he made his decision.

So he went to Rhodesia and was put into the Special Air Service, officer’s training. He was in the top of his class here, going along well. And he began to write some articles for some of the …what we would consider patriot publications still around. There was one in South Africa , he was in contact with that one we had taken for years [S.E.D. Brown. SA Observer] also there were a couple left in Rhodesia, so he contributed some articles. And in one he wrote was entitled ‘The Myth of American Anti-Communism’ was the title.

Well. Unfortunately Rhodesia was infiltrated, as much as we are here now. So that didn’t go over and it was considered not appropriate and he was let out of the officer’s training class. He was devastated, of course, wondering where does he go now. So he stayed on and tried to enter the medical corps. And he was accepted. And went through that training very well. And they had a policy when he completed his training that the wounded would be brought into a base camp.

Well. That didn’t go over with John. He said: “No. I will continue on with my training but I will be out in what they call ‘the bush’. “ Apparently when they were out , he wanted to be there not only to treat the men medically. He said “I will be with them to witness to them for Jesus Christ and save their soul.” And that was the basis of John’s life.

KG : And so, he would, if someone in his unit got injured, he would be able to treat them right there on the scene rather than bringing them back to the base.

PC: “That’s right. That’s right. And they let him do it. And later on we learned they made that a policy there. And, of course, that is where he died eventually when three years later he gave his life.

They were caught in an ambush. You see what was happening in Rhodesia, they were only trying to defend and save their own country. The countries surrounding them – there was Zambia, there was Mozambique – they had already fallen under Marxist control, you see. So these Marxist, Communist terrorists were coming over the border into Rhodesia and kidnapping these innocent Black people of Rhodesia, many of them young people and taking. Then to Cuba, then to Russia and all over getting them trained and indoctrinated, you know into being terrorists. Then they sent them back to their own country.

KG . Sounds very similar to what is going on today.

Phyllis Coey: That’s it. That’s why it is so important to know all this because it’s a replay. It’s kept going on. And so Rhodesia was, as I said, simply trying to protect their own country from being invaded like this. And protect their own people from being indoctrinated and sent into help destabilize their own country.

KG. Wow.

Phyllis Coey: So there were men, and I’ve heard different accounts from as many as 18 different countries – some say it was many more than that , made the same decision John did. They understood the world situation. And they came from…The press, of course, attacked them tremendously, saying they were mercenaries and bigots and racists, you know…

KG. The whole 9 yards. So how did he discover this information because, this is, you know, the 1970s. We didn’t have anything like the internet that we have today, where it is much easier to find out information, especially about places that are far away from where-ever that person happens to be. So in this case, if I am here in the United States, it would be almost impossible to find out things about Rhodesia or anywhere else for that matter in the 1970s. Where now I can just get on a computer, to to the start page, do a search and I find out everything I want to know.

Phyllis Coey: Well. There were different publications coming out then [ 1970s ]. One was called ‘The Spotlight’ way back then. They gave a lot of information on Rhodesia. And were some patriot [ones] , a few peop around who tried to get the truth out at that time.

And, of course, we were for that all the time.

And, then, through the years, we ran study groups within our home trying to encourage people to come and search for the truth and , you know, find out what we could – because of what you know was happening in our own country.

It was in 1964 – OK – who was running for president…I’m sorry. My age…

KG. In 1964. That was Johnson. Right?

Phyllis Coey: No.

KG. Kennedy.

Phyllis Coey: No.

KG. Nixon?

Phyllis Coey: No. He was the one we had such hope for back at the time and then they discredited him so much he didn’t make it. [ Senator Barry Goldwater – the Republican hopeful ]

KG. Uhmm.

Phyllis Coey: I sorry to be…I call these my senior moments. You’ll have to excuse me.

KG. Laughs. Please continue. Continue.

Phyllis Coey: So. In our study groups, back then, we were having speakers come and tell the truth about what was going on and the danger to own country. There were times when we would have maybe a thousand people in attendance. If you can believe that.

KG. Wow.

Phyllis Coey: Where did they go? The situation just kept fading out and fading away. And we reached the point where we wouldn’t have maybe even half a dozen people attend our home study group.

KG. That’s amazing. And that’s just the kind of information you were getting out to people back in 1964.

Phyllis Coey: That’s right.

KG. People can do the same thing today. I’m sure if they’ve got the gumption to do it. I am sure they can put up their home and invite a few friends over and get information disseminated out to the people that are immediately withing your circle of influence. And this has been the way that information flowed before the internet to a large degree.

Phyllis Coey: Well. I always said that my own journey through this started at the age of 13. And I didn’t consider myself having a lot of priority on brains or anything. I always said if I could have the initiative to search it out and do it, anybody else could if they wanted to.

KG. From what you have previously said, you started searching out a lot of this information when you were just 13 years old. So even back at a very young age you knew things weren’t quite as they [ powers that be] were saying they were and you knew things weren’t quite right.

Phyllis Coey: That’s right. When my sons were in high school and I said we were in turmoil over in the Vietnam War and all that, I would attend what they called the Parent Teacher Meetings and so on. And the parents would be al upset about what was going on. And I’d say. ‘Well. Why don’t we find out what’s creating this. There has to be a reason, there has to be, you know, someone creating some of this. And I would invite them to come and attend our home studdy meetings. Well. They would literally push their chairs back and look at me. And what I would hear is: ‘Oh well. Uh. It’s just a fad. It’ll pass’.

KG. Yeah. Some fad. It’s been going on

Phyllis Coey: How many situations have come along since then.

KG. That fad has just continued for the last 50 something years. It’s been a long fad.

Phyllis Coey: That was in the 1960s.

KG. Yeah. Uhmm. 50 – 60 years. Now. What happened with your son in Rhodesia? He’s there. He’s working as a medic with his unit. What was going on with him?

Phyllis Coey: Well. He was out with his men and they were caught in an ambush. And he gave his life trying to save his wounded men.

KG. Do you know who actually ambushed him?

Phyllis Coey: There were these – they were called ZANU and ZAPU and they had these different alphabet names for all these different Communist organisations that were coming in over the borders. And some of them got over the border that day and , as I said, it was the Rhodesian Light Infantry my son was serving with. The RLI we call it. And, as I said, they were caught in an ambush and my son gave his life.

KG.. Was he able to save any of the other members of his unit?

Phyllis Coey: There were two other men killed along with him that day. And I never determined. One man I guess died in his arms he was trying to save.

[Note. Phyllis Coey refers to Sgt Taz Bain and Tpr Hennie Potgeiter In that contact Cpl Jannie de Beers was KIA later in the day.

KG. That’s incredible. So he got ambushed. He was killed that day. When was that?

Phyllis Coey: July 19, 1975.

KG. So what happened after that? Bring us up to date.

Phyllis Coey: Well. Of course that was a terrific decision. We had to try to make. You know. Did we leave him there? Did we bring him back? What did we do? Now our situation at that time as a result of being politically incorrect was obvious, what had happened to us. Because my son [George Edward Coey] and my husband [ George Emmett Coey] neither one could get employment. You get repercussions when you take a stand.

So that was the situation we were in: unemployed. And then having to make decisions like this. And then we got a notice from just the good, ordinary people in Rhodesia trying to save their country and they paid our way over because they wanted John to have a full military funeral and the honors he deserved. So we went over and – for two reasons.

John had kept a journal from the day he left until the time of his death. Hoping, of course, to get back and write the book, as I said, on the Biblical and political truth of the situation. And I had made him a promise that if there was any reason he wouldn’t be able to do that , we had to face reality, that I would see that it got done. I made him a promise.

So we went over for two reasons. We appreciated the honor he was given. We didn’t go for any personal glory or publicity and certainly not for money or anything like that. And at his funeral, we wanted to make sure that no one would leave who had not heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ. That was our main purpose. And second, then, was to find

his journal and bring it back with us.

KG. And were you able to find his journal?

Phyllis Coey: No. We weren’t. He left it with a trusted friend the last time he was in the bush, when he went out on manoeuvres. And at the time of his death, I guess. Well they did, they panicked and turned it over to the wrong people.

We had to come home without it. We were devastated.

And we were very, very blessed by the chaplain and our son [George Edward Coey] who gave a eulogy for his brother. As I said, it was not totally in honor of John, our son gave a very beautiful eulogy. And no one left there who had not heard the Gospel of Jesus Christ.

KG. It’s pretty amazing

Phyllis Coey: So. And one thing. When I went through his footlocker which was all he had left, just a footlocker with some things in it and way down in the corner were the negatives of every photograph he had taken through the years. And we were able to come back with those.

KG. That’s incredible. So you had the photographs and then you finally at one point got his journal.

Phyllis Coey: A year after we were home, it came to us through the mail. We don’t know to this day who managed to get it to us. And, of course, as far gone as Rhodesia was at that time, the wrong people had gotten it, and we are still – but somehow, someone still managed to get it to us.

So what saves that. A good portion of the political truth was censored. But when John would write home to us, he would write from his journal at that time. And , of course, that saved him time and gave us information we needed. That’s what saved the journal because we had every single letter and we were able to piece together what had been censored out.

And then it took me thirteen years to find a publisher, we didn’t have the money or any way to do it, being unemployed and working our way through that.

A dear lady in North Carolina, Pat Brooks had written beautiful works of truth and just published them herself. And so these dear folks took that on for us and published our journal. … And then I would just get a box or two on consignment from them and go where I could with it and then pay them, you know. And that’s how we got them paid. I had a first and a second printing then. Another patriot came along for the second printing when the first one was gone.

My first and second publishers have now passed on. They are with the Lord. We know that. And the book is out of print at this time. It’s been quite a trip. It’s been quite a journey.

KG. Sounds pretty amazing. And so what sort of things would people read in his journal.

Phyllis Coey: Well. He covers every personal thing he was going through from the day he left until the time of his death. And, of course, it covers all the political aspects of what was going on. It gives his personal Christian witness all through it. And that is what it contains.

That is why it’s so relevant today because the warnings of the things that went on with that country.

[Rhodesia] , we see a replay of it here.

In Rhodesia, you know, you don’t hear about them in the news now do you – since it became Zimbabwe. They haven’t got a clue.

KG. They couldn’t find it on the map.

Phyllis Coey: And of course that Robert Zimbabwe [ Mugabe – but I like her version best ] they let him take over and control. The country is in turmoil. It would take thousands of dollars to buy a loaf of bread.

The other thing you don’t hear Kevin is , you know, you hear the term ‘racism’ all the time. You don’t hear it over there. You con’t hear about all the White farmers they’ve murdered , do you? But that’s not racism, is it?

KG. No. It’s never racism when it’s against the White guy. That’s just how it works.

Phyllis Coey: And they had freedom [ in Rhodesia ] , total freedom. I mean if the Black people preferred to live their own life style. They’ had their own territory. They had a choice. They weren’t forced to accept the White man’s ways. Many did because they learned to be productive. They learned to provide for themselves. They weren’t being held as slaves.

KG. It’s interesting. We have just a minute or two left. Anything you want to say to the viewers either locally or in the Danbury CT area or those who are watching worldwide on YouTube. Anything you would like for them to know.

Phyllis Coey: Yes. I would like for them to get onto the internet and please get three books for themselves.

One is called: “The Saints”. This is the whole history of the RLI. They called themselves ‘the Saints’ and that was their regimental marching song. [ 1 ]

And then another one which has been an absolute miracle to get into print. It is called: “Africa’s Commandos. It is compiled as a report by the survivors from the RLI, the men who survived and they managed to get this together after all these years.

You see, these people had to leave their native Rhodesia and their people. They are now scattered all over the world. And , of course, there were other men like my son from all these other countries and we were lied about and spurned as families.

KG. It was happening then. It is happening now with Libya and Syria and this same old song and dance. They keep doing it as long as they have success. Unfortunately America won’t get off the couch , stop watching American Idol to make a difference.

KG:  We are actually all out of time. Thank you so much for joining me on the program tonight.

Phyllis Coey: Such a pleasure. Thank you for giving me this opportunity.

1.] Alexandre Binda. The Saints. The Rhodesian Light Infantry. (Hardccover edition – Sept. 15, 2008). Compiled and edited by Cris Cocks.

2.] Mark Adams. Chris Cocks. Africa’s Commands: The Rhodesian Light Infantry from Border Control to Airborne Strike Force. July 2013. Helion and Company.

July 19, 2008.  US memorial service for the Seven American Troopies
of the Rhodesian Light Infantry (RLI)  killed in action,
Rhodesian War of Independence 1965 -1979.